Round 3) All of EU. Disney "canon" is an entire different continuity from Lucas canon. This thread is archived. Explains why Vader is above Sidious and Ventress is even on the list to begin with. Count Dooku vs Darth Maul, who would win? No because your stance is being refuted all the same. Count Dooku of Serenno, also known by his Sith title Darth Tyranus, is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise created by George Lucas.He first appeared in Star Wars: Episode II – Attack of the Clones (2002), portrayed by Christopher Lee, who reprised his role in Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith (2005). Quote: Read the opening post and don't act like an idiot. Don't honestly care if you don't take my word for it or not. No, because he did took active role in the ritual, so he had to have some knowledge about sith magic. It is called The Mandalorian after all. It's just a reference book with a bunch of random stuff in it. Jan 13, 2020 - Explore Adam's board "Dooku" on Pinterest. The same pirates that shut off Maul's mechanical leg and forced him to run away. You are using an out of date browser. Especially in light of the fact Sidious never valued Dooku like Plagueis did. Kapeesh? Which is just as stupid as them capturing Obiwan or Anakin, yeah, The same Talzin that got disarmed by Sidious in a second and was stated to be. At first, Count Dooku seemed like someone just thrown into Maul’s spot as a place holder for a better antagonist. Something that Maul never learned from him. I think bo katan said he wasn’t. In 2 vs 1 and after geting purposely tounted into the dark side with Dooku not even trying to kill him. Windu is naturally a better duelist than Sidious himself is and Talzin easily stalemated him. 1 Description 2 Interlude 3 Pre Fight 4 HERE WE GO! Dooku was born into a rich family on the planet Serenno and was to become the future Count of his homeworld, however, he instead chose to become a Jedi, training under Yoda before becoming a Jedi Master. And yet, somehow, Maul wound up being the one cut in half. If I remember it right Talzin is not even a natural force user to begin with. Dude, she literally says it in the episode with Mace and Jar Jar. Her stick is that she became powerful by using magic ichor on her planet and stealing energy from other beings. 13 years ago. Sidious never taught Dooku any Sith magic. The two never got to face one another. Every single statement from Sidious indicates Maul was always intended to be his successor and heir prior to his apparent "demise" at the end of Episode 1. Even in the Clone Wars show Dooku always had the advantage even in two on one situations vs Anakin and Obi where as Obi and Maul looked even. 96% Upvoted. Take a second to look at our. Talzin restoring maul is also the reason she’s in spirit form now iirc. Because Lucas canon shows that he does, so what is this strawman even about? However, there's an exception in one of the saga's more interesting antagonists with Count Dooku. deactivated-579f93e2e4122. Count Dooku couldn't even match up to Anakin Skywalker when the latter was holding back, and was being bamboozled by Obiwan Kenobi in terms of dueling. Nah. or is that implied because he is an old man? Yes Anakin could best Dooku in a duel. Darth Maul with no legs vs. Count Dooku without hands. What? And again I say to that all: so what? Dooku however was always expendable and never anything more than a temporary tool before he got Anakin. In the Clone Wars, when Dooku was fighting Savage Opress (who uses a double-bladed lightsaber like Maul, I might add) he was owning Savage in with the Force but whenever it came down to lightsaber combat Savage would constantly knock him down easily. See more ideas about star wars art, star wars artwork, count dooku. Which also explains why Obiwan was even able to fight Anakin. Simply broken down, no Anakin/Chosen One? 42 comments. You are speed-reading my posts and missing vital clues to my statement and assertions. It basically is. Who will win in a fight between Darth Vader & Darth Sidious and Team Count Dooku? RELATED: 5 Reasons Emperor Palpatine Is THE Villain Of Star Wars (And 5 That It’s Darth Vader) Both Maul and Tyranus are formidable Sith, with many accomplishments and fallen foes to their names. If only all of the sequels were like this. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It is relevant in regards [to their teachings. The nightsisters magick comes from taping into the spirit ichor (the green substance) that runs within Dathomir (stated in the Star Wars encyclopedia). However, the survivors regrouped and began calling themselves the Death Watch. Round 4) Bloodlusted. In this book Maul is stated to be trained not as a true sith. Welcome to the forums! Take a second to look at our. Darth Maul vs Count Dooku. ''True or False? So it only makes sense that they are stronger there. This is using the disney Canon 12-22-2015, 02:00 AM #2. The entire shtick is she is a Night Sister who uses the dark side for magic and sorcery, not because she never had Force abilities to begin with. The only force powers allowed are those necessary for saber combat. Nothing but pawn from the start to finish. The argument isn't working there, pal. Are you one of those crazies who think some dark sider is always getting a magic force boost from a planet at all times too? 0. Where is the evidence Talzin is not a natural Force-User? Today, Count Dooku faces off with Darth Maul to defend his position as Sidious' one and true apprentice. You have given no conclusive proof Dooku is more talented then Talzin as duelist. Dooku knows nothing of Sith or dark side sorcery on his own and Maul not yet learning Force Lightning is irrelevant because in neither continuity is it indicated Sidious delibarately withheld from teaching Force Lightning to him. You are forgeting important details like Talzin being naturally stronger on Dathomir and her draining power from Dooku before the fight. As a duelist he, Keep in mind Count Dooku even resorted to. It's a weapon that Tyranus can use, while Maul can't and it's highly useful in combat. However, instead of waiting for the seekers to arrive, Gora abandoned the infant outside hi… They were then led in secret by Concordia's governor, Pre Vizsla of Clan Vizsla, and Duchess Satine Kryze's sister, Bo-Katan. Which of Sidious' apprentices would win in a fight? A former Jedi Master-turned-Sith Lord and the second apprentice … The story is about them. Her comments were about her using it for magic, nothing more nothing less. This is also factually untrue. Darth Maul would win because he focuses on rage and anger which Dooku doesn't defend well against. "Now we have a great and powerful enemy." When it comes to Star Wars, most of the Sith Lords from the prequel trilogy retain the title of "Darth," from Sidious, to Maul, to Vader.. Jan 31, 2019 - This one better be glad he died before I got to him. At so… I would have to check the Plagueis novel which right now I don't have with me. Maybe even 7/10—'cause Maul won't quit until he's completely out.'' So Maul having higher potencial then her doesn't mean much, since her power level is more circumstancial. The latest Star Wars novel hints that Palpatine could have been training Count Dooku years before Darth Maul died in Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace.For centuries, the Jedi had believed the Sith to be extinct - right up until Darth Maul engaged Qui-Gon Jinn on Tatooine, and then was killed on Naboo. And even Savage disarmed Dooku, and only lost because Dooku was more powerful in the force. I never said anything about Windu. Sources for all of their abilities come from the films, the clone wars tv show, and various books and comics. Disney canon is dogshit though. Darth Maul! Darth Maul & Count Dooku Maul being a master of Form 1, Form 4, Form 6, and Form 7 (Juyo) There's no chance of Ren defeating maul, or getting close. Also Boba being the new MC of a show called Mandalorian means they have him and his father back to being Mandalorians? - Jeremy Barlow And even Savage disarmed Dooku, and only lost because Dooku was more powerful in the force. 5 Conclusion Star Wars vs Star Wars! ''Hmm. It proves that Grievaus is good enough to hold his own and Maul's force push is not enough to finish him. DARTH MALAK VS: COUNT DOOKU OR DARTH MAUL Anything goes. Even the writer of the Son of Dathomir comic book thinks that Darth Maul would beat Count Dooku in a duel more often than not. Come on man, don't even go there when Dooku was kidnapped by space pirates. Everything to do with how well they wield a lightsaber, and even. I was already pleasantly surprised they brought back Boba and even had Temura Morrison play him so I am hoping they just ditch the sequels and give us real long time SW fans some needed quality and not that pathetic cheap ass attempt involved with the Sequels. if so, that would be weird, since neither sidious nor yoda seemed to have gotten less skilled, and had been out of practice for longer as … Note: This is about lightsaber skills, not force powers. Superhero battle match: Darth Vader & Darth Sidious versus Team Count Dooku. It doesn't trump the latter either for that very reason. >dat Force crush on the last Dark Trooper. They call mando a cultist then adhere to this rule that has never existed before lol. I never said force lightning isn't relevant. Especially since historically, going into the old canon/Lucas continuity, Dooku has *always* avoided tangoing or fighting Windu at every turn. That's nice. save. And? 6/10 sounds good. That could also play a part in the story. Battle. Makes her an even bigger failure that she’s literally around the same time as Luke and is doing nothing to help bring the Jedi back, when so much has been done to ensure her survival. Sidious wen't far enough to teach Dooku things like Force Lightning and Sith Magic. I'm not buying your conclusion on this at any rate and so do the rest of us in this thread from that matter. It just proves that Tyranus' dark side knowledge was more developed then Mauls. share. report. Also you have yet to actually give a rebuttal to Plagueis enraging Sidious by calling Maul expendable when all of the actual evidence of Sidious shows him regarding Maul as a true apprentice and successor where as in both canons, Sidious never truly cared about Dooku and he only served as a stop-gap between Maul to Anakin. Round 5) EU Maul, Dooku, and Vader vs Sidious. Anything goes. This being a result of fighting Darth Sidious, who you've still yet to prove Dooku can match the power output of.Dooku's ability to inflict pain doesn't preclude Maul's ability to overcome it and fight back, which he obviously isn't in a position to do so here. "Count Dooku's fall has troubled us all," Obi-Wan acknowledged. He had never met such power in battle before. They’ve changed their minds a few times. I'll also happily repeat that the one time Dooku was immediately challenged by Windu, who unlike Maul, took him on head to head...Dooku ran away after blind siding Windu by knocking some battle-droids into him as he went into a pit and fucked off the planet immediately. JavaScript is disabled. Two seconds after realizing Maul had more important things to do, he casually TK'd Grievous out of the window of the tower and put an end to their duel: You are grasping at straws here. I'm not seeing how my point was refuted here. Are we on the same page here? It is from the same Disney Canon you like so much. At least he considers himself one. Darth Maul vs Count Dookuis an upcoming DBX by PillsburyZomboi. Forum Posts. Sidious is quite fine with having Maul who already had potential to be greater than Talzin and Windu, Force-Users on par with a man who was already on his way to becoming the most powerful Sith Lord in history. If you're talking about old EU Darth Plagueis novel then it actually makes things worse for Maul. Grogu is safe now, and Luke is training him. hide. Wiki Points. I'm not even sure if it's suposed to be taken as canon to begin with. Canon Mace doesn't have as good of a record as the legends versions and he even struggled against bounty hunters. Also still honestly laughing at the whole bit of you saying "Windu is bad against bounty hunters". You must log in or register to reply here. Enjoy! Because that would be another good thing. Which made filoni’s attempts to argue he wasn’t in tcw all the more bruh worthy, How many times has mando taken the helmet off lol, I wonder if their gonna have Kast show up in the Mandalorian, I mean Ashoka was getting her ass fondled by older women in TCW. Which canon? So for now let's say I'll come back to it later. Round 1) Movies only. Shouldn't you extend this courtesy to yourself as well? Yeah. Technically Dooku is a Darth as well, as the Emperor renamed him Darth Tyranus when he became his apprentice in Attack of the … Unless I see a definitive statement that it's about skill I consider it not clear. Follow 1909. I thought you took it as holy gospel or is Disney Canon only true in regards to whatever subjective opinion you have? You must log in or register to reply here. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Your argument hinges on a possessed-Dooku who Talzin's spirit was just *recently* taking being called "sloppy" or less skilled then Sidious is not concrete evidence that Talzin at her normal level can easily contest and match blades with Windu; a duelist who is vastly superior to Dooku and credibly even Sidious for that matter. With both of them induced with rage they choose to kill each … It looks like Boba Fett is gonna be the main character for season three, and it's even called the Book of Boba. You are using an out of date browser. I think that Count Dooku would just win. Oh, there's also a scene there where Plagueis meets Dooku and for a moment he considers replacing Sidious with him. My immediate follow-up to Qui-Gon Jinn Vs. Darth Vader that I threw together practically overnight. It literally refers to top five duelists who use red lightsabers. In fact the actual perspective in the next page shows the Force Lightning from Talzin and Sidious are relatively in parity to distance from her and Sidious in the next panel while Dooku is rising from the ground after she left his body: No it isn't. Yeah I was worried that Filloni's influence would of had Ashoka take over too much as it seems he wants her to be the new SW main character but if her role was small and not overwhelming and they gave some much needed respect back to Luke than I hope this either retcons the Sequels or at least means they will focus on an alternate timeline that takes more from the Old EU instead. Darth Maul vs. Count Dooku vs Darth Vader Maul, Dooku, and Vader go head to head in a lightsaber duel. Since he's an older age and therefore unable to store as much information in his mind, Dooku probably lost track of it once Maul began to utilize the duel wielding style and when Dooku started trying to defeat Maul … See more ideas about count dooku, star wars universe, star wars art. Honestly he should have just let her die on Malachor. He needs to let her go. It's generally confirmed that Vader beats Malak, but *RAMPANTOX MUST NOT READ PAST THIS POINT* can these two slightly lesser Sith do it? You legitimately still have brought no evidence or proof of this other than hearsay and an unverified claim that Talzin was somehow being magically boosted despite again; no statement from the omniscient narration, the visuals, or statements indicating Talzin was being actively or passively buffed by being on Dathomir. And even Savage disarmed Dooku, and only lost because Dooku was more powerful in the force. This to the point that he had to compromise on his gentleman's code, and cheat against them. JavaScript is disabled. As for your statement that Talzin somehow stalemated Sidious in lightning lock it's not even true. This is completely irrelevant to the. Yeah. She uses the Force, the whole lore behind the Night Sisters from their origins is they are "witches" with the dark side for the most part and don't use the Force the same way the Jedi or Sith do. Dooku? On Star Wars, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Darth Maul (season 7) vs Count Dooku". It literally proves that Maul didn't give two shits about Grievous who was nothing more than a distraction and the moment Maul got serious, Grievous was thrown away like a pile of scrap metal. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Maul because his greatest strength is Dooku's greatest weakness: rage. Since it was annexed, and all Mandalorians were forced to leave by the Galactic Empire. the panel you posted is just from a dutch-angle perspective and the blasts appear to be meeting half-way between the two of them. According to Jocasta Nu, he was one of the greatest Jedi in the Jedi Order. And few seconds later he comes back to kill Talzin. Also Shadow Hunter novelization outright STATES Maul was always intended to be Sidious' successor: Nothing to do with popularity. It comes with the armor, and there's a long line of succession with it. Dooku was born on the planet Serenno to the planet's ruler, Count Gora, and his wife, Countess Anya. After Maul's seeming demise and twelve year absence came fallen Jedi and Count of Serenno, Dooku, who adopted the name Darth Tyranus. Count Dooku, also known as Darth Tyranus or Lord Tyranus, was a Human Jedi Master and the former Padawan of Jedi Grand Master Yoda as well as the official head of state of the Confederacy of Independent Systems. Malak faces off against one of two Sith of the PT era. It actually makes more sense if it's top 5 most popular red lightsaber vielders. I said that there is no indication in either continuity (Disney or Lucas) that Maul was intentionally withheld from being taught the power by Sidious, rather he just hadn't reached that step yet as an aspiring Sith Lord. Once one of the most respected members of the Jedi Order, the death of his former Padawan, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, as well as the corruption he saw in the Republic left him disil… It pits both Darth Maul and Count Dooku from Star Wars. Following the end of the Mandalorian Civil War, the Mandalorian warriors were exiled to the moon of Concordia, where most of them died out. Which apprentice to Darth … Yes, I was talking about disney canon, I thought this is obvious after the discussion of the first page. The fight was inconclusive, thats all. He had never come up against something that had completely overpowered him. That doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy the double-light-saber-combats of Maul. Maul beat Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon and without any Force shenanigans, Maul would have the advantage over Dooku. Round 2) Movies and TCW. In the Clone Wars, when Dooku was fighting against Savage Opress (Maul's younger brother and someone who, like Maul uses a double-bladed lightsaber) he trumped him in Force, but every time it came down to lightsaber combat, Dooku … Yeah I was worried that Filloni's influence would of had Ashoka take over too much as it seems he wants her to be the new SW main character, >we finally get that Boba Fett centered series rumored to have been planned all the way back in the 2000s. Also even in the RotS novelization when he catches Obi-Wan offguard with a Force-Choke during the duel on the Invisible Hand, the narration directly states had Obi-Wan been fractionally faster he would've defended successfully against Dooku indicating Dooku was nowhere as strong or the gap was as big between him and the Jedi as lead to believe. Rechecked, there's the old conversation where Sidious talks to Vader about Maul and how he had a Force-Bond of sorts with Maul; so when the events of the duel's outcome on Naboo went down, he felt a tremendous blow to himself and the dark side when Maul was seemingly "killed". How is the lightning not relevant? Considering Talzin and Sidious were stuck in a stalemate as they were dueling with Force Lightning and the stalemate between the two never changed even when Maul aided his mother and Dooku supported Sidious. Count Dooku for me is just the smarter, more elegant and in any field more sophisticated guy. Re: Darth Vader(ROTJ) vs Count Dooku(ROTS) vs Maul(SoD) on Wed 16 Dec 2020 - 12:14 @Meatpants wrote: Because Lucas says that he improved the choreography in each of the OT movies to show that Luke and Vader are getting better, then segues into how Maul and co. are faster and more skilled. Even the writer of the Son of Dathomir comic book thinks that Darth Maul would beat Count Dooku in a duel more often than not. 0. Starkiller meeting luke would’ve been much cooler than Luke meeting ahsoka. But Maul was raised in first line to become an assassin, while Dooku was a wanderer between the two worlds giving him much more facets to glow everywhere he appeared. That has nothing to do with Talzin naturally stalemating Windu on her lonesome in her own body with little effort. Welcome to the forums! Unless they also tie in the reclamation of Mandalore into the story. and Plagueis doesn't care about breaking the rule of two for him, clearly implying that he didn't see him as a threat. Darth Maul, later simply Maul, is a fictional character and a major antagonist in the Star Wars franchise.A powerful Zabrak Sith lord and Darth Sidious' first known apprentice, he first appeared in Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace (1999), portrayed by Ray Park and voiced by Peter Serafinowicz.Though seemingly killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi at the end of the film, he returned in … Maul focuses on rage and anger, something Dooku doesn't defend well against. Also they’ve introduced that you can only take the darksaber through combat despite sabine not doing so. Even meeting the Sith Lord who had killed Qui-Gon had not been the same. On top of that you have shifted the goal post from your original claim that she isn't a "natural" Force-User to begin with. He showed so much promise. No idea if you made this up or fell for some kind of bullshit but nothing suggests Talazin wasn't a naturally gifted Force-User in the TV show or expanded materials. It may not display this or other websites correctly. He used him only once in a Sith sorcery technique because of his bond with Yoda as the latter's former apprentice to try and break Yoda's spirit. I see literally no evidence of this. No, nor is it necessary. So what are you rambling about? Even though he was adopted fett was descended from cassus so he was always one by blood. Takes place on Kamino docking platforms. Specifically in regards to swordsmanship. Dooku could hold Vader off for awhile till Ren dies, and Maul might actually defeat Vader in a 1v1 saber duel, do to his vast knowledge and skill of and with a lightsaber. Also double checking the novel, Sidious does get angry *but hides it* from Plagueis when the latter dismisses Maul as nothing more than a hyper efficient weapon to the Grand Plan. His thoughts turned to his battle with Dooku. Eventually, he would take an apprentice, Qui-Gon Jinn; who eventually obtained the rank of Jedi Master. They were both performing it. For there can only be two, a Master and an Apprentice. Darth Maul from seconds after losing his legs gets into a room with Dooku after loosing his hands to Anakin. Maul Respect Thread. Maul, cut down in his prime as the assassin for Darth Sidious in The Phantom Menace. Dooku was clearly stronger, I know A>B, B>C, doesnt always equal to A>C but a young Obi-Wan managed to beat Maul and he got creamed by Dooku twice when he had far more experiance. He’s inserted himself into the show so I wouldn’t be surprised they meet lol. The fight between Yoda and Dooku showed Dooku to be an impressive fighter capable of actions beyond his years, but it was hard to compete with the Maul vs Obi-Wan and Qui-Gonn fight from the end of The Phantom Menace.To end a poor film with one of the best fighters in Star Wars history cemented Maul’s legacy.. 5 COUNT DOOKU WAS THE BEST: He Lived Longer Currently, other Mandalorians hate him because he is a clone but due to Jaster and Jango he is one. Rapidly, the child's Force-sensitivity manifested, scaring his father who hated and feared those he dismissed as \"freaks.\" Gora contacted the Jedi Order on Coruscant and told them to come and claim his son. So that clearly didn't end the fight. No evidence of this at all exists of her getting some magic boost from being on Dathomir. She was disarmed because she had relatively "just" recently possessed him a few minutes before Sidious showed up with Grievous and his droid army on Dathomir. Dooku may have recognized the saberstaff's design and attempted to cut it in half before Maul activated it, but Maul's ferocity left that tactic un-worthwhile to Dooku. And again, even if I have to repeat myself like a broken record, her shtick is magic with the Force; illusions, summoning the dead, generating blasts of Force energy, her own variant of Force Lightning and possession and physical alteration to others. 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